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❓ASK Is there still money to be made in starting an online radio station?

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During the middle to late 1990's, this was big. There was a ton of money in it since the only streaming of music online was through them, and there were no iTunes or AmazonMusic or any other services yet to compete with it except for traditional radio stations which were and still are more restricted than internet music sites are.

It has become saturated however, and there are now tons of music streaming services of every kind which are both ad-supported (free to listen) and paid subscription with everything from iHeartRadio to Spotify.

Do you think that there is still a way to monetize this and make money from it in the middle to late 2010's where we are now? Or do the major corporations have too much of a monopoly on it for us to start a music streaming site and profit from the ad revenue even if it is free?

Are there too many music laws on new streaming sites and online music to do this?
 
Same for me, Youtube is my go to source when listening to music. The bad thing about starting an online radio stations is that your audience may be really scarce, since there are better options for content. What about starting a YouTube channel?
 
Same for me, Youtube is my go to source when listening to music. The bad thing about starting an online radio stations is that your audience may be really scarce, since there are better options for content. What about starting a YouTube channel?

Youtube has a nice list of music, but they're very much control freaks and have ridiculous copyright claims.

Unlike running your own streaming music service, Youtube will try to control what you upload sometimes, and even people who have made their own covers or unique works of songs have been falsely labeled by others as it belonging to someone else when it does not.

You either get this, or automatic bogus copyright claims from Youtube's own servers and algorithms that falsely identify it as such OR it conflicts with things that they want to sell now that they have "Youtube Red" and partner services they get paid by to slight you and keep you from competing.

When that happens, Youtube instantly removes or deletes your video and music from being available to anyone, and then either you have to concede to that or go through a long drawn-out process to prove that you own the rights to things, or prove that you have in fact MADE the music or video content in question.

Whenever someone has control over your own works like that, it may be good for the public...but it is definitely not good for you.

On top of that, you then have to either decide to get ripped off by Adsense (and risk losing both adsense and youtube channel if there's any kind of issue) or have to join a content network if you're going to get anywhere, and hope that they are honest with you on the revenue sharing on top of the control freaks at Youtube. Not as bad as Facebook and some other places, but still...all it takes is one jerk to mess with you on there, and they can cost you money and reveue screwing around. It could be anyone, even some young kid in school who doesn't care and flags your video just to be a dbag because they can and are "bored".

So when you have an ASCAP/BMI license to play music but that happens to you still, or you have your own music and content that Youtube has the audacity to let others claim is not yours...there are more than a few reasons why you would not want to use them or any other service still, and would instead want to use your own if you can get it started.

When big companies and groups already have each other in their pockets and play by their own set of rules, they can keep you down. It's called unfair competition, and the DOJ and FTC in the US used to fight this until now. Now, they are in on it if the person pays enough. Justice is skewed, and cases are instantly dropped if brought against the 'wrong person or group by mistake', yet pursued if someone is not on their team. It's corrupt and crooked, but that's how it is now.

If you have your own servers and service with all the right licenses and proof of your own copyright works, they cannot do this to you anymore unless you are making thousands upon thousands of dollars, and they are willing to spend almost as much as you're making to try and mess with you just to steal it away and get that money going their way. If they cannot (and most won't), then you are in some capacity still able to do a decent business and free trade. But with the way the big companies have things locked up and the consumers flock to Youtube and other big places, it is very hard to get the foot through the door to start, and if you do...the question of whether you can still make money at it or enough to make it worth your time becomes a big question.
 
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If you think you would like to create an online radio station, I think YouTube should at least be a place where you post your past broadcasts. Even if you don't post all the music there, commentaries and "free" songs would have no problems with copyright claims YouTube sends out with every occasion. Also, in my opinion, advertising on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/everywhereelse is a great thing to do to draw audience to your site.

If you decide to start an online radio station, please PM me with the link. I'd love to hear it some day!

Best of luck!
 
During the middle to late 1990's, this was big. There was a ton of money in it since the only streaming of music online was through them, and there were no iTunes or AmazonMusic or any other services yet to compete with it except for traditional radio stations which were and still are more restricted than internet music sites are.

It has become saturated however, and there are now tons of music streaming services of every kind which are both ad-supported (free to listen) and paid subscription with everything from iHeartRadio to Spotify.

Do you think that there is still a way to monetize this and make money from it in the middle to late 2010's where we are now? Or do the major corporations have too much of a monopoly on it for us to start a music streaming site and profit from the ad revenue even if it is free?

Are there too many music laws on new streaming sites and online music to do this?


Hi there,

I'm sure there's money to be made, however, it's hard to imagine someone would beat Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, or Soundcloud.

The way I see it, while there's not much of a chance of a new service becoming very successful, the artist's themselves have more opportunities now to make money online and be discovered / seen.

NOTE: On a side note, I'm also not sure whether the free ad-sponsored websites reward the artists. In case a new "player" would share ad revenue with their artists / DJs, I believe there'd be a chance for them to become quite a success. If there is such a player, please do let me know as I'd be quite interested in learning more :p.

Regards,
Oliver
 
Hi there,

I'm sure there's money to be made, however, it's hard to imagine someone would beat Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, or Soundcloud.

The way I see it, while there's not much of a chance of a new service becoming very successful, the artist's themselves have more opportunities now to make money online and be discovered / seen.

NOTE: On a side note, I'm also not sure whether the free ad-sponsored websites reward the artists. In case a new "player" would share ad revenue with their artists / DJs, I believe there'd be a chance for them to become quite a success. If there is such a player, please do let me know as I'd be quite interested in learning more :p.

Regards,
Oliver

Thanks Oliver. I'm not sure if they'll allow new people to get into it past a point. I saw that recently JayZ tried to start his own music distribution label called Tidal, but just saw on my morning news that even he is getting attacked by the same music industry he supported and made millions for over years to the tune of 5 million dollars. So I'm really starting to wonder if there is a way to get through at this point. If I discover any new big companies that actually are paying out rewards to help new musicians and artist start-up labels, you'll be the first to know. :)
 
@moneyman:

I understand what you mean. I'm not entirely sure there's a way to get through in the "traditional" music industry, however at least for some people the "traditional" industry is dead.

See, I do not go to Youtube or Spotify quite that often anymore and I don't listen to "radio" music (that is, the popular music that is so often overplayed in radios).

Be it at work, home, or sometimes even on the move I'll just open Soundcloud and play Reggae, Dub, Drum'n'Bass.. basically the stuff where everyone can become well known if they are good. Perhaps I won't be able to find Adele's last song on Soundcloud, but that is just as well since I wouldn't want to listen to it anyway.

This whole thing got me interested and it turns out Soundcloud does indeed allow select artists to make money through ads displayed on their site. So far I only found this info on Quora, but it was mentioned twice, I will need to look into it some more :rolleyes:.

And here I was wondering why all my favourite artists have everything on Soundcloud, which is free :D.
 
I used to be a member of a forum that is directly connected to a website radio that plays original music. It was fun because unlike real radio where you send an sms to react, this internet radio has a chat box so the communication is interactive. Unfortunately it closed shop due to lack of funds. They pay the DJs but the sponsors were not coming. Taking rrom that, I guess you need to have connections with sponsors otherwise your radio station will suffer the same fate.
 
During the middle to late 1990's, this was big. There was a ton of money in it since the only streaming of music online was through them, and there were no iTunes or AmazonMusic or any other services yet to compete with it except for traditional radio stations which were and still are more restricted than internet music sites are.

It has become saturated however, and there are now tons of music streaming services of every kind which are both ad-supported (free to listen) and paid subscription with everything from iHeartRadio to Spotify.

Do you think that there is still a way to monetize this and make money from it in the middle to late 2010's where we are now? Or do the major corporations have too much of a monopoly on it for us to start a music streaming site and profit from the ad revenue even if it is free?

Are there too many music laws on new streaming sites and online music to do this?
I Believe in the quote never say never,nothing is imposible.You can make money online with anything provided you put the right things in place.People are still bound to patronize you,so go ahead with your dreams remember there will always be competition is just to find a way to effectively market yours.
 
You can try and attract an audience with your discussion. Maybe you can aim for a particular topic like personal development or for a particular demographic like teens or millennials.
 
It's no longer called a radio station if it's online. It goes by the name of podcasts, now that's like an online radio station.

and nowadays they are doing LIVESTREAMING on facebook to broadcast. thats why it can't be called radio station coz most of the broadcasters do broadcast in their home. as we can see everyday on facebook
 
and nowadays they are doing LIVESTREAMING on facebook to broadcast. thats why it can't be called radio station coz most of the broadcasters do broadcast in their home. as we can see everyday on facebook
Oh you mean vlogging? I think what you mean is vlogging. The livestream video thing that gamers often do nowadays. Well, I think I am too boring to do that lol.
 
I reckon there are probably some ways
to earn money with podcasts etc. Sadly
you'd have a hard time competing with
things like Spotify.

I never listen to the radio either internet
or traditional these days. I pay for
Spotify premium and build my own
playlists so I can listen to music that
I want without ads or somebody
talking over it. Judging by the amount
of my friends that do the same many
prefer having the music they want
rather than listening to someone
elses choice.
 
During the middle to late 1990's, this was big. There was a ton of money in it since the only streaming of music online was through them, and there were no iTunes or AmazonMusic or any other services yet to compete with it except for traditional radio stations which were and still are more restricted than internet music sites are.

It has become saturated however, and there are now tons of music streaming services of every kind which are both ad-supported (free to listen) and paid subscription with everything from iHeartRadio to Spotify.

Do you think that there is still a way to monetize this and make money from it in the middle to late 2010's where we are now? Or do the major corporations have too much of a monopoly on it for us to start a music streaming site and profit from the ad revenue even if it is free?

Are there too many music laws on new streaming sites and online music to do this?
It is an interesting idea.As far as I know,to do this you better have some rights,that you have bought to be able to stream music or something similar to it.I think though,that the competition is huge on this type of market.You should read more about those music copyrights,before you start monetizing.It might be there some way out.
 
Blog tallk radio and podcast are two options. Also there are some of the patreon people who are into this type of the work. I guess for each one of us this could earn differently. And that's one more reason I'd invest into this if I can get chance.
 
No, I don't think you can make much money from a radio website anymore. I mean everyone can use YouTube for free music and everything so why would they waste their time with listening to a radio?
 

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